"I have long argued that the giving of offence, and even hate speech, should be a moral matter but not a matter for the criminal law. That is as true on the football pitch as on the streets. We should always challenge racism. We should also always challenge attacks on liberties in the guise of faux antiracism." Kenan Malik

Dale Farm Visit.


Today members of NCAG joined travellers and their supporters at Dale Farm for a march from Wickford train station to the site and the official opening of ‘Camp Constant‘ where an attempt will be made to fend off the eviction that is now only days away.

The march itself was lively and had a good turn out of a few hundred strong. The only question was where were the mass throng of ‘leftist activists’ who constantly talk a good talk of ‘fight back’ and ‘equality for ethnic minorities’-apart from a handful of union banners, they were noticeable by their absence once again.

As usual the police presence was bordering on the ridiculous and FIT teams were out filming four year olds for their ‘database of domestic extremists’.

If any of our members, friends and supporters are able to get down to the site and help out the residents, we’d encourage you to do so as soon as possible.

Thanks to all at of Dale Farm for having us, our thoughts will be with you over the coming week.

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29 responses

  1. adie_wickford

    Funny I was at the march as a resident of wickford and a stout supporter of the eviction I am surprised to see that you wrote a few hundred turned up I could only see about 100 to 150 women and children plus a few more idiots with drums and whistles maybe i must have been at a different demo. I guess the absence of any supporters speaks for itself

    the sooner they go the better

    September 10, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    • villa

      sorry i swore at you , i shouldnt have done that , but i do disagree with you very strongly

      September 11, 2011 at 8:34 am

    • I think this photo tells a different story to yours adie.

      September 11, 2011 at 9:09 am

    • More evidence for adie – all I can say mush was you must have been looking out of your back windows! lol

      http://www.youtube.com/user/GypsyCouncil#p/u/28/oKe4KBM0ymA

      September 11, 2011 at 1:25 pm

  2. Paula, Kenley Close, Wickford

    You’ll have noticed the members of the local community on the march as well then. You know, the local vicar, the local priest, teachers, shop keepers, need I say more? Not every person who lives in Wickford feels the same as you Adie.

    September 10, 2011 at 7:57 pm

  3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-14866490

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5ggbffKWDvFZbAh2qjI1IOE5m6ERg?docId=N0298921315621107699A

    If you say so adie_wickford.

    September 10, 2011 at 8:07 pm

  4. villa

    adie , your a prick

    September 10, 2011 at 9:07 pm

  5. Arthur.

    Calling it ethnic cleansing is a bit over the top don’t you think, they aren’t going to kill them.

    What’s the gain in a fight you probably aren’t going to win and people may get injured or worse.

    A great many people are saying one law for all and if they have to apply for planning permission why should any one else be exempt.

    Others say it’s greenbelt and we have to protect our greenbelt and I do see some sense in both the arguments above.

    The women Adie, put’s a view, of some of the residents and you call her a p****, why, if it’s a view of some of the residents, she’s entitled to that view, right or wrong.

    What am I missing here, should planning laws be abolished, should there be no green belt and should locals not have a say?

    Before you all jump on me, I have no real opinion on this and I don’t think that many of us EDL do either, as an open minded person I’m willing to listen to reason.

    Arthur.

    September 10, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    • ‎[E]thnic cleansing […] defies easy definition. At one end it is virtually indistinguishable from forced emigration and population exchange while at the other it merges with deportation and genocide. At the most general level, however, ethnic cleansing can be understood as the expulsion of a population from a given territory.[8]

      September 11, 2011 at 7:54 am

  6. Marcus Clarke

    Previous governments encouraged travellers to buy land so as to avoid tresspass. So these people bought a giant scrapyard, so the ‘green belt’ issue is rubbish.

    In terms of equality of planning law, what is equal about the fact that 90% of traveller applications are turned down as opposed to 20% for the ‘settled’ community?

    And aren’t the people who are currently screaming out loud in support for this eviction going to feel like fools when 100 families start pulling up on their village greens….

    September 10, 2011 at 11:21 pm

  7. Marcus Clarke

    And those are FACTS, irrespective of what the tabloid junk says…

    September 10, 2011 at 11:24 pm

  8. Arthur.

    Hi Marcus, can you back up that 90% figure.

    Are you saying it is not greenbelt land? Is the 20% for planning applications on “greenbelt” or for extensions on houses?

    Was the scrape yard legal?

    Marcus, I have no opinion on this yet and I do not read any newspaper.

    Arthur.

    September 11, 2011 at 12:00 am

  9. Marcus Clarke

    Yes I can

    http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/rights-of-gypsies-and-travellers/planning-permission-for-caravan-sites/index.shtml

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Farm

    September 11, 2011 at 6:54 am

    • Arthur.

      Thanks for that Marcus, it’s very clear from the photo of the scrap yard that the land in question can in no way be regarded as what most people would think of as greenbelt, as a scrap yard it’s quite clearly an eyesore to say the least.

      I was expecting to see green fields and trees and was shocked to see the huge scrapyard.

      Arthur.

      September 11, 2011 at 10:30 am

  10. Marcus Clarke

    Meanwhile Tesco are building 500 new homes on land they own in Langdon Hills…green belt…you couldn’t make it up…

    September 11, 2011 at 6:58 am

    • Arthur.

      Hi Marcus, I have tried to find some info on the 500 houses but can find nothing can you help with a link please.

      Arthur.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm

  11. Definition of ‘Ethnic cleansing’ – A purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.

    The official United Nations definition of ethnic cleansing is “rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group.”

    So yes it can be defined as ‘ethnic cleansing’.

    September 11, 2011 at 7:18 am

    • Arthur.

      OK, point taken, thanks.

      Arthur.

      September 11, 2011 at 10:32 am

  12. Interesting, if the scrap yard had remained a scrap yard it would today still be a scrap yard, if ya catch my drift. http://www.basildon.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3976&faqdetailid=4014&inplace=true

    September 11, 2011 at 7:52 am

  13. villa

    ok arthure , i apologise to adie , sorry adie , but this wouldnt be going on if these gypsies were muslims would it , their would be a million trotts their fighting for their rights but just because they are white working class people needing homes , families and comunities its fine for the government to move them of the land , and who said anyone had a right to own the land anyway , they didnt make the land , no one did , the land was their befor their were even people , so who sais anyone has a right to tell them or anyone else for that matter were and how they should live , this is about freedom and racism , freedom to live where and how you want , no mater what colour your skin
    we should all be free to pitch camp on any land that no one else is using , the queens got loads of land , lets take some of that lazy bitch that has never done an honest days graft in her life and not hard working white people

    September 11, 2011 at 8:16 am

  14. Agree totally, but any people Villa. The ‘left’ make ‘white working class’ people an issue by their exclusion, we don’t have to be like them.

    September 11, 2011 at 8:25 am

  15. villa

    the thing is i dont deny the exsitance of racism , denying it doesnt make it disapear , it has to be recognised , adressed and then dealt with and the dale farm site is a fine exsample of the racism of the left

    September 11, 2011 at 8:37 am

  16. villa

    if they were all black i would still be their , using the same arguments but the word black instead of white

    September 11, 2011 at 8:38 am

  17. Yes the left are guilty of only latching on to issues involving black or asian communities, this leads to working-class nationalism. I am sure you don’t mean it, I think it’s just the way you write but you come across as being racist when you post. Just an observation though. I am sure you are not as I know members of Norfolk Community Action Group-you are mad fuckers all lol!

    September 11, 2011 at 8:51 am

  18. villa

    my take on it is this , i am an anti racist , any racism , including racism against the white working class , it is a very real form of racism embraced by much of the left along with antisematism , you only have to open your eyes to see it , the left is in love with islamic fashism and the flip side of this is a hatred of white judaochristianity , i will defend all victims of racism irrespective of race religeon gender and sexual preferance , we should all be united under social class , working class and fighting our real enemies the rich, i will qualify my analysis of the left , i meant the swp , if i am wrong tell me why we arent all at dale farm ?

    September 11, 2011 at 9:42 am

  19. James Walsh

    The planning laws are biased against indivudal citzens but work far better for businesses. If I wanted to convert my house into two flats I’d have to go through almost as much work and expense as some company who wants to build a block of flats. Green Belt is more of a tool for keeping the working class stuck in place than for anything else- it’s about keeping this country a green and pleasant land for the rich not for all.

    Until our town get made into nice places to live (and my town is no more than a dark satanic mill as far as I’m concerned) we should all have the right to do what the residents of Dale Farm have done. It shouldn’t be about special rights for one group- it should be about the right of all of us to start taking back our country from the modern equivulent of the gentry.

    As to the SWP- whenever they have their UAR hat on- you would think Luton was a great multi cultural new jerusalem- not a folsom and jetsom capitalist shithole gulag. There is name for parties that support the interests of petty bourgeoisie managers against the interests of the working class.

    September 12, 2011 at 9:54 am

  20. villa

    class traitors , this land is our land , this land is your land , from the scotish mountains to the thames estuary , this land was made for you and me

    September 12, 2011 at 7:07 pm

  21. Simon B

    There were one or two lefty’s down there, but if it ain’t to do with their jobs/pensions they generally don’t give a fuck, and their knees shake when they have to engage with real working class people. Cocks.

    September 13, 2011 at 10:42 am

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